Fate or Free Will?
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I ONLY BELIEVE IN COURAGE! TOGETHER WITH THE OATH SWORN THROUGH COURAGE! ROOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
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That doesn't help me much at all.
Let me add that I'm trying to get a general idea of what this forum believes. I'll be doing a series of questions just like this. (Blue, you'll probably recognize most.)
Let me add that I'm trying to get a general idea of what this forum believes. I'll be doing a series of questions just like this. (Blue, you'll probably recognize most.)
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I believe in both. I believe that humans have free will, but I think that the corse of action that revolves around around them is the consequences of their free will and the free will of others, but we are connected through Fate.
eg:
I got into my school, and I chose to go. I went into eighth grade and I chose to go to camp as well. I chose to hang out with Syd. Kazu chose to hang out with Sid. Fate made us meet. I chose to invite him to our table to lunch. Fate made us perfect for each other.
>.> Yeah... ^_^' That's a true story though.
eg:
I got into my school, and I chose to go. I went into eighth grade and I chose to go to camp as well. I chose to hang out with Syd. Kazu chose to hang out with Sid. Fate made us meet. I chose to invite him to our table to lunch. Fate made us perfect for each other.
>.> Yeah... ^_^' That's a true story though.
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Free will mainly. God gave it to us, and we've been messing with his plans ever senes. I beleive som ethings ARE fated to hapened, but over all you are free to chose what you say and do. For example, if somthing pre-determened does happen, WHAT DO YOU DO? I personally don't beleive in fate in and of itself whatsoever.
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Ya, most things in life are just GOING to happen, such as the inevitable death of the entire human race, but SOME things are of your own free will, ie. shooting someone, THAT you can chose to do or not to do, fate is things like......there will be a WW3, THAT is most likely unavoidable. and so ends my reasoning of why there is both free will and fate.
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I vote both.
We have free-will, which allows us to make choices in life, as most people above have said before me. Specific choices lead to specific paths down your life and generates a type of fate. If I chose between swimming during Freshman and Sophomore year and ended up being miserable. Then that's one path. Or, I could've not chosen to swim and just taken normal PE and probably wouldn't be so frickin' angsty in life as I am now. D':
So, two fates could have derived from that decision. Fate is technically guided by free-will.
Although, I think if I chose the latter fate, I wouldn't be so depressed and emo as to surf the web endlessly and eventually wind up where I am now.
Hell, I might not even have had found this site at all if I wasn't so depressed. :'D
So there were some good things that came out of it. Like meeting you all.
Also, in some alternate reality, I'm not actually typing this, but doing my homework and calmly doing college applications.
I'm probably participating in 5000 school clubs as well. :'D
We have free-will, which allows us to make choices in life, as most people above have said before me. Specific choices lead to specific paths down your life and generates a type of fate. If I chose between swimming during Freshman and Sophomore year and ended up being miserable. Then that's one path. Or, I could've not chosen to swim and just taken normal PE and probably wouldn't be so frickin' angsty in life as I am now. D':
So, two fates could have derived from that decision. Fate is technically guided by free-will.
Although, I think if I chose the latter fate, I wouldn't be so depressed and emo as to surf the web endlessly and eventually wind up where I am now.
Hell, I might not even have had found this site at all if I wasn't so depressed. :'D
So there were some good things that came out of it. Like meeting you all.
Also, in some alternate reality, I'm not actually typing this, but doing my homework and calmly doing college applications.
I'm probably participating in 5000 school clubs as well. :'D
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Some mixture of both. I'm afraid to choose "both," though, because I know someone will misinterpret my theory if I do. First off, I believe that whatever's supposed to happen will, and you can do absolutely piss-all to stop it. These inevitabilities aren't, like, uberdivine intervention, and often result from your actions and the actions of others; sort of a bad Xerox of Ro's idea, I guess. Secondly, though, we must have some large amount of free will too; if we're just meat puppets, that clashes with my belief that while we're down here, we go through a series of tests. Think, like, spiritual exams. There isn't a mistake or catastrophe you can't learn from. I have no problem with the "why do bad things happen to good people?" conundrum. Do your parents shelter you and make sure you have a perfectly ideal trouble-free life, or do they try to teach you and help you grow as a person, sometimes in rough ways? I don't think testing's the only reason we're here, because that'd just be odd, but I've alread drawn enough conclusions to fill a novella and I tihink it's high time I stopped.
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When you came into this life, you had already made the decisions. Now you go through it trying to figure out why.
So it's kinda 50/50, where you are the one who controls fate, yet it still leads you.
So it's kinda 50/50, where you are the one who controls fate, yet it still leads you.
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Hiko, you should be shot.
THAT CLASS WAS MEANT TO STAY IN SCHOOL. I DONT NEED THAT BOOK FOLLOWING ME AROUND MORE THAN USUAL. I ONYL TOOK THAT COURSE BECAUSE I WANTRED TO SKIP MR TOASTERHELD'S CLASS. THE COMPLICATED DISCUSSION WE HAD SHOULD STAY IN TEH CLASSROOOOOOM.
Please. For the sake of my sanity/not killing you. NO MORE.
THAT CLASS WAS MEANT TO STAY IN SCHOOL. I DONT NEED THAT BOOK FOLLOWING ME AROUND MORE THAN USUAL. I ONYL TOOK THAT COURSE BECAUSE I WANTRED TO SKIP MR TOASTERHELD'S CLASS. THE COMPLICATED DISCUSSION WE HAD SHOULD STAY IN TEH CLASSROOOOOOM.
Please. For the sake of my sanity/not killing you. NO MORE.
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I believe in the ultimate free will, the paradox (also known in the media as "the secret") where you subconsciously control all aspects of life...
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Lawl, solid free will here. Everything else is just a bunch of events that just happened to you, and many of them are caused by your own choices and decisions.
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Hiko, you should be shot.
OK. SHUT UP.
I've had enough of you bitching about Philosophy.
It's interesting, and you're the only one immature enough to push it aside.
HELL, EVEN DARK AND ZOLEM ANSWERED IT WELL.
On a happier note, I'm kinda happy with the fact that everyone answered this seriously.
I'll be asking a few more questions as the year goes on. *makes another poll*
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Free will all the way.
Which reminds me of the descriptiong for a living zombie (not I said living, not undead)
"A person with no free will or thought". Have to remember to tell them to eat and stuff, though.
Which reminds me of the descriptiong for a living zombie (not I said living, not undead)
"A person with no free will or thought". Have to remember to tell them to eat and stuff, though.
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I believe there is such a thing as fate, but it isn't set in stone. Anyone has the power to challenge it.
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I like to think that life is like a bunch of interweaving strings, you can choose what path you take, but there is a set number of paths you CAN take.
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Both. Going by theory, there are an infinite number of universes, each of which contain an infinite number of you making an infinite number of choices at an infinite number of ages using an infinite number of ways.
For example, in one such universe I could've killed myself, and would be dead at current. This would be both 'fate' and 'free will' at the same time, for I was fated to die in that universe the moment I chose it.
Thus, one could technically say we're 'fated' to whatever we do, but we also are allowed to carve out what our universe will be like.
But then again, that's all just theory.
-Twi
For example, in one such universe I could've killed myself, and would be dead at current. This would be both 'fate' and 'free will' at the same time, for I was fated to die in that universe the moment I chose it.
Thus, one could technically say we're 'fated' to whatever we do, but we also are allowed to carve out what our universe will be like.
But then again, that's all just theory.
-Twi