Left 4 Dead

Jesus. All you punkass kids will look pretty damn dumb with your piss ass weenie melee weapons while I'm toking a shotgun with two rifles strapped to my back.

Yeah, I'll be saving all your asses.
Maaan... Steve gets all the cool weapons...
;~;

Yeah, you will be.
Oh, it's made by Valve.

Guess I won't be needing Dead Rising anymore.

*Fanboy squee*
You can draw me... You can find my image at the thread designated for such pictures. I'll be wearing a torn jacket of dark blue jeans fabric, a white shirt, pair of torn dark blue jeans and no shoes or socks. I'll be wielding my left arm with my right hand. Of course, I'll be lacking a left arm on my body.

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You can draw me... You can find my image at the thread designated for such pictures. I'll be wearing a torn jacket of dark blue jeans fabric, a white shirt, pair of torn dark blue jeans and no shoes or socks. I'll be wielding my left arm with my right hand. Of course, I'll be lacking a left arm on my body.

the power of your god hand, (that) no evil do'er will get past?
Lets see... Here's me, though I would likely be wearing a dark light jacket on top and wearing either jeans or camouflaged fatigues with black combat boots or hiking boots.

My weapons would likely be either one or all of these, my scythe (I'm not called The_Grim_Reaper for nothing!), and of course my trusty magnum.

I also have a 30-6 ("thirty-aught-six") bolt-action hunting rifle if needed. Oh and Steve, I keep this helpful zombie-slaying tidbit to heart: "Remember, blades never have to reload." - How to Survive a Zombie Apocalypse by someone whose name I can't remember.
I don't want to be drawn.

Just remember that the most effective zombie weapons are "lobotomizers" (double-sided battle axes that convert to shovels) and single-shot bolt-action rifles. Perhaps a few handguns, just in case they're annoying to hit with the lobotomizer.
Well, I don't need my picture drawn either, assuming you're even still drawing this thing.

However, I'd like to not that The game has been release dated for November, for all those people who haven't been looking into it but are still interested anyways.

Also, all the character models were redone, for those of you who also didn't know this. Basically, what I saw was that Louis looks more professionals (like, dress shirt and what not, as well as cleaner, shorter hair, no facial hair.), I didn't notice the difference for Zoey, Bill looked less dressed up for an invasion and somewhat more like a toned-down Vet. (he also lacked a beard, I think his armor was less armor, more camo-like, i don't remember.), and Francis looked the most different, shaved and toned down. (People said he went from a leather-wearing, never shaves or cuts his hair muscle-bound tattoo covered biker to a smaller, leather wearing not tattoo covered shaved biker. However, I still don't think he was muscle bound, he just looked plain overweight to me before.)

However, some article someone posted somewhere said that some are now taller (including Zoey), and that their clothing is somewhat brighter or more different from the zombies. Also, Zoey is supposedly more trendy looking, but I don't remember her looking different, so I can't comment on that.

The old pictures are on Wikipedia still, if you search for any recent gameplay videos you should be able to see their new outfits. (Well, 3/4ths of them, 1 character will be in first person). But it pretty much seems like the most visible difference is that none of the characters have facial hair anymore, and Francis isn't a fatty.

Anyways, as long as I can purchase this at Gamestop for the PC (and I'll be sad if I can't), I can get this in November. Otherwise I'll have to wait for Christmas. But still, I want this game, and I plan on getting it.
Francis I don't even notice. He's a biker hobo.

Bill became a wanna be vet.

Zoey is now a hippie-terrorist-freak. I mean, seriously. Before, at least she looked *competent.*

Louis is now a protagonist. :'D

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Just remember that the most effective zombie weapons are "lobotomizers" (double-sided battle axes that convert to shovels) and single-shot bolt-action rifles. Perhaps a few handguns, just in case they're annoying to hit with the lobotomizer.

Har Har Har.

I don't know what you're going off of, but bludegeoning weapons are clearly better for Zombie whacking, as the heavy head doesn't require a smattering of force to use, and large battleaxes are unwieldy when dealing with the undead. Pistols are worthless, you want guns that can reliably take out heads, like good rifles and shotguns.

And when dealing with zombies, fire is always good.
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No.
You want to be able to cut clean into the brain of the zombie. Battleaxes aren't too heavy, and also aren't likely to be sharp ANYWAYS.

That, and a lobotomizer isn't a battleaxe. It's more of a sharpened club with a shovel on the end.

Ever tried to use a rifle when a zombie is a foot away from you? Pistols aren't even a foot long. I've shot both, and from experience, pistols should at least blow them back a foot or two.

FIRE?! DO YOU REALLY WANT A FLAMING, WALKING CORPSE ATTACKING YOU!?

Fire would take much too long to actually work. You want the BRAIN. BRAAAAIIIIN.

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I don't know what you're going off of, but bludegeoning weapons are clearly better for Zombie whacking, as the heavy head doesn't require a smattering of force to use, and large battleaxes are unwieldy when dealing with the undead. Pistols are worthless, you want guns that can reliably take out heads, like good rifles and shotguns.

Actually, a really big, heavy weapon would be excellent against zombies. I'd take a shovel over a sword any day.

See, I don't need to obliterate a zombie and keep it from attacking anyone ever again-- I need to escape from it. A heavy weapon might not be graceful, but it doesn't take any skill to hit zombies with a big stick. I see what Hiko's getting at, what with the sharp edge being able to hew limbs and smash into the skull, but if you knock a zombie onto its butt, you have enough time to either finish it, or get the hell out. The latter option is better because you don't risk getting hurt and infected with either the T-virus or a more mundane nastiness that'll kill you due to your difficulty in finding medical supplies.

Any gun that is to be used against zombies is going to have to be very high-caliber. A .22 might protect you against a person, but zombies aren't afraid of having a gun pointed at them, nor do they feel pain. This is perhaps the only use you will ever have for a Desert Eagle, as a .50 bullet is, like, four times the size and weight of a .22 bullet.

A shotgun is, of course, ideal.
Maybe a sawn-off, at best. Full-length shotguns have recoils like a bitch and are a bit bulky to carry around WITH your Desert Eagle, rifles, lobotomizer, etc... the lobotomizer technically is a shovel, by the way. :'D
Erm.

Sawed off shotguns have *more* recoil.
Yeah.

But it's also not recoil that slams into your shoulder repeatedly.
One-handed is easier.
...It has the *same* power as a shotgun. It may not bang repeatedly into your arm, but with the shorter barrel and *less* distribution to your shoulder... What do you think will happen?

*Especially* with one hand? ;;>>
I have no idea what practical application a sawed-off shotgun has. You can hide it better, I guess, but why? No weapon of that size is ever going to be easily concealed no matter what you do to it.

And yeah, if it doesn't have a stock, then it's going to break your wrist instead of bruising your shoulder. Yay!

I still stand by my statement that Desert Eagles are for people with small penises. There's no reason you'll ever need a gun that size. Ever.
The practical reason for a sawed-off shotgun is for very close range. The reduction of barrel length makes the pellets have an even wider spread, making it so that you have to be even less accurate to hit someone. Additionally, it can be concealed in a large coat more easily, but the just cone of fire is really the purpose. Oh, and they would also have slightly reduced recoil and muzzle velocity, no idea how you would think it could get more, except that it is a bit lighter.

I would consider doing this. I will see if I have a picture of myself, it has been a very long time since I remember taking one.
Have any of you actually fired a shotgun before?

I own a 20 gauge shotgun, which is fairly standard. Yes, you have more recoil than a rifle, but if you think it's bad enough to hurt you to the point where it would stop you from using it, you are obviously a pansy. I've fired 4 shots in a row with not so much as even reddening my skin, much less bruising. I've also gone through an entire box of shells shooting clays and didn't even have a sore shoulder the next morning. If you actually bother to fire a weapon properly, you'll be fine.

And Robo is correct. A person doesn't saw of a shotgun to conceal it, they do it to cause more damage.
It's been a while since I have fired a shotgun. When I did, I think it was an over under (one barrel on top of the other, as compared to side-to-side) 12 gauge. I was but a wee lad back then and I do remember it stinging each time I pulled the trigger, but it didn't leave any physical evidence. I'd prefer my father's M1 Carbine to a shotgun in a Zombie Apocalypse situation. It's semi automatic, very quick to reload, and packs a great punch. If it can kill armored Nazis, I won't have any trouble with zombies. But if I manage to run into armored Nazi zombies , I'd switch back to my scythe. I hope you liked death, cus it's reaping time!