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Ugh, why would you even bother branching to Hitler? Before you read the next few lines, know that 12 of my personal family died in the Holocaust. On my dad's side.

Hitler only used Kristallnacht, etc, to alienate the Jews and give himself a way into power. Basically Hitler was like the racist Napoleon, except Himmler sorta, you know, created the Holocaust. Hitler also did a lot of great things, leading up to jet propulsion and other great advances in science.

So, if we're going to keep comparing the petty to the terrible, sure.
Good: Advances in science / finding a way around a broken system
Bad: Genocide / uh, I guess your friends list being full of idlers? baw more?

See what I mean? I was about ready to drop this, too, then you made a stupid comparison.

People keep saying that the system sucks. What exactly do you propose instead?

The only viable option I see is to let everybody start with all the weapons already unlocked. Doable, but I like having an unlock system. It gives me a feeling of progression and makes the game more fun for me.

I'm a great fan of the new Sandvich system. They've really made the weapon more useful, actually being more of a sidegrade than a downgrade.

Also, having a cold sucks.

So how are you guys? Good? Playing some TF2, having some fun with the game?

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I'm a great fan of the new Sandvich system. They've really made the weapon more useful, actually being more of a sidegrade than a downgrade.

Also, having a cold sucks.

So how are you guys? Good? Playing some TF2, having some fun with the game?

I'm enjoying it immensely, I can't wait to see what upgrade the 'engie' gets. I'm hoping a radar(replacing one of the teleporters) type thing that detects spys and shows enemies through walls ah-la "zombie vision" from L4D...

I'd also like to see a "sniper sentry", that has a way slower rate of fire on tier 2 and 3 mode, but does more damage and aims quicker the higher levels it goes...

and maybe the dispensers have a version that refills slower but can heal other buildings...

although I just broke the game, so it will just be interesting to see what they put in for the last 3... soldier, engie, demoman.

Unfortunately, I don't have my gaming PC up at college, so I won't be able to witness any of the new releases in game, at least until Thanksgiving at the earliest. TT^TT

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People keep saying that the system sucks. What exactly do you propose instead?

The only viable option I see is to let everybody start with all the weapons already unlocked. Doable, but I like having an unlock system. It gives me a feeling of progression and makes the game more fun for me.

I like quoting myself. It adds spice to the conversation.

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3 random solutions:

3.) Timer based on time since registering, instead of being logged on. This eliminates idling since you don't need to idle to get new stuff.
2.) Achievements+Release everything at the same time. Although, there would be achievement grinding, but everyone would be grinding their favorites (what they are playing anyway), instead of grinding the new shit. Obviously, it's too late for this now.
1.) Just give out all the stuff without the need to grind. Unlocking in a competitive multiplayer shooter is retarded. If you want to show off your e-peen, achievements are still there for you.

I have actually thought of a 4th: keep a log of when the player is not logged in, and give a bonus % for the chance/rate of unlocking for a certain length based on that time. Basically what WoW did with the inns. As much as I hate WoW, it has some marvelous systems like that; instead of promoting being logged on/off, it promotes coming back.

And then there's the one they actually planned, but have yet to DO (Part of why people are angry): Allowing us to break duplicate unlocks to make other stuff that we want.

Break two/three/five sandviches, grab my Ushanka. : D

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What have I unleashed on the board?!

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What have I unleashed on the board?!

Well, you do seem to have created one of the most active threads I've seen in a while. Good for you there.

That's all I really wanted to say, but I'll note this as well. Everyone on either side of this argument seems to really think they're in the right (and I don't claim to know who is), so I doubt either side will yield. Therefore, you're just going to keep trading blows until you get bored. Seriously, move on to some TF2 discussion or drop the whole thing...

EDIT: By TF2 discussion, I obviously mean anything other than this. Just adding that in.

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What have I unleashed on the board?!

Well, you do seem to have created one of the most active threads I've seen in a while. Good for you there.

That's all I really wanted to say, but I'll note this as well. Everyone on either side of this argument seems to really think they're in the right (and I don't claim to know who is), so I doubt either side will yield. Therefore, you're just going to keep trading blows until you get bored. Seriously, move on to some TF2 discussion or drop the whole thing...

EDIT: By TF2 discussion, I obviously mean anything other than this. Just adding that in.

The great thing is that one side already got their app banned and their ill gotten gains removed. The battle was over before it begun : D

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By TF2 discussion, I obviously mean anything other than this. Just adding that in.

It's what I've been trying to do.

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I'm a great fan of the new Sandvich system. They've really made the weapon more useful, actually being more of a sidegrade than a downgrade.

Also, having a cold sucks.

So how are you guys? Good? Playing some TF2, having some fun with the game?

-ignores the rage-

Pretty good, actually. School workload is lighter than expected, so when I'm not at band I get tons of TF2 time. I'm really improving my spy skills.

And yes, Sandvich traps are cool.

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The great thing is that one side already got their app banned and their ill gotten gains removed. The battle was over before it begun : D

I love how you refuse to read/process what I write...

EDIT: You guys ignore my rumblings and carry on with the love.

EDIT II: You know what? Fine, be it your way. Enjoy digging through achievement_idle servers. You won, you deserve it. I'll be here, playing games made by people who don't deliberately screw over their players.

I don't play TF2, so I don't have to worry about Idle Servers. I win either way!

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I love how you refuse to read/process what I write...

How so?

Because I didn't write a reply applauding the geniusness of your suggestions? I asked if anybody had any decent suggestions, you made some, I read it, and that was it. You don't need to be so hurt over the lack of fireworks.

Edit: It's not like the idle servers cause harm. I have them filtered away with the nice filter system that Valve made for me.

BTW, Drakim:

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The great thing is that one side already got their app banned and their ill gotten gains removed. The battle was over before it begun : D

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I don't give a damn. Hell, there is a forum full of people who don't goddamn care about hats and still disagree with Valve's decision.

is what I've meant.

On a happier note: